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#1 Vestik

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Отправлено 15.01.2007 - 23:37:38

Уважаемые форумчане, есть ли у кого монеты, сканы стельо, и сколько они сейчас стоят на рынках? Что-то не нашел пока :ohmy: Цитата: "В 1954 г. Генеральная Конференция ЮНЕСКО признала, что результаты, достигнутые эсперанто в деле интеллектуального международного обмена, соответствуют целям и идеалам ЮНЕСКО, и поэтому между ЮНЕСКО и UEA (Всемирным Союзом Эсперантистов) были установлены консультативные отношения. Сотрудничество между этими организациями постоянно развивается. В 1959 году Всемирный Союз Эсперантистов в г. Роттердаме выпустил ограниченным тиражом монеты, претендовавшие на звание "мировых". Монеты имели номинал в 1 (бронза), 5 (латунь), 10 (медно-никелевый сплав), 20 (серебро) стельо. "Стельо" в переводе с эсперанто означает "звезда". Аверс монет действительно украшен пятиконечной звездой, на которой размещен номинал. На реверсе 1 стельо круговая надпись на языке эсперанто UNU MONDO – UNU LINGVO – UNU MONO (Один мир – один язык – одни деньги); на реверсе 5 стельо, вокруг изображенного земного шара – LA MONDO ESTAS UNU LANDO – LA HOMARO UNU POPOLO (Мир – одна страна, человечество – один народ). На реверсе 10 стельо помещен портрет Л.Л. Заменгофа. Изданным монетам не удалось стать всемирной валютой. Платежным средством стельо признал только Голландский банк; курс стельо к основным валютам мирам публиковали печатные издания (в основном, Союза Эсперантистов). К примеру, в 1963 году ХХ века курс стельо к доллару США составлял 13,4. Эти редчайшие монеты теперь находятся..."
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#2 А

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Отправлено 15.01.2007 - 23:54:15

по цене они вроде вполне доступные

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#3 Vestik

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Отправлено 16.01.2007 - 00:00:51

Спасибо за скан, А, а хоть примерно сколько стоят? Любопытство разбирает, когда встречаю слово "редчайшие" по отношению к монетам, особенно середины XX века...
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Отправлено 16.01.2007 - 00:21:22

Нашел очень интересный и информативный текст, на английском, меня очень позабавили в нем некоторые факты, не могу удержаться, размещаю (в конце ссылка, где можно посмотреть монетки):

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UNIVERSALA LIGO: For this listing, I am indebted to two numismatists, Mr. William R. Harmon (former president of the Esperanto League of North America, and current Chief Delegate for the American branch of the Universala Esperanto-Asocio) and Mr. Chaim Dov Shiboleth. They each imparted some invaluable knowledge to me about the 2 series of Esperanto coinage. When I separately asked them for a few meager details, they supplied me with many more seemingly unmanageable facts than what I originally bargained for. I was actually bowled over by the mini-avalanches of data, which I then attempted to consolidate into a single tsunami. Both men deserve all the credit for this little-known factual material. What follows is an immoderately condensed/adulterated version of what I received. Let us begin with the more modern Stelo series:
This rebirth of an Esperantist communal currency was the result of a very ambitious initiative of Andreas Cseh (Andreo Cxe), who in 1942 founded the “Universala Ligo” (Universal League), based in The Hague, Netherlands, at the site of the current International Esperanto-Institute (I.E.I.). This event took place in secrecy on April 14, 1942 (the 25th anniversary of the death of Ludovic Lazarus Zamenhof, the father of this universal language), during the German occupation of that country. Esperanto had been banned by the Nazis, and their constituents were persecuted; many of its speakers were exterminated. The Ligo, whose mission statement was to unite mankind in harmony through the use of a common language, gained a substantial Dutch and international following in the years after WW2, with more than 15,000 members in the early '50s. During the 1st international assembly of the League on the 16th of March 1946 in The Hague, a decision was made to re-introduce a common world currency with an internationally stable value. Theirs would be an experiment in achieving peace via international economics; in proving to the world that the global conflicts caused by international economic pressures could be resolved by the use of this revolutionary currency. The noble task would fall upon the Stelo (star, one of the symbols of the Esperanto movement), and its value was to be fixed at 1 Stelo = 1 standard loaf of bread, which at the time cost 0.25 Dutch Guilders. That same year, the Ligo started printing coupons (Premio-Kupono) with the value in Steloj, for internal use (payment of activities, leaflets, prize-money, etc...). These were widely used within the movement up until the 1980s.
The minting of the League's first coinage, dated 1959, commenced on June 28, 1960. They were proudly minted in an optimistically large amount by the Royal Dutch Mint (Rijksmunt) in Utrecht. The slogan on the 1 Stelo is “One world, one language, one money”; the 5 Steloj had “The world is one nation, mankind one people”; the 10 Steloj featured the “kreinto” (creator) of Esperanto. Exceeding expectations, the sale of the coins rapidly covered the cost of production. A 25 Steloj was minted in 1965 (I purchased mine from Mr. Frank S. Robinson). These coins actually circulated, though not under any governmental aegis. They were utilized as a unit of account for sales of books and other merchandise within the Netherlands Chapter of the League, and perhaps were even valid for purchasing items at other associated outlets anywhere in the world. These coins remained in use for quite a long time, certainly for more than 30 years, until the Ligo declined in popularity and importance. In 1974, the price of the Stelo was revalued at 0.50 Dutch Guilders and its previous connection to the price of bread was terminated. In 1977, the Stelo was fixed at a new constant, the consumer price-index, which is based on a percentage of the theoretical monthly purchases of an “average” family (the same system used nowadays to calculate minimum wages). The idea behind this was that this index would not be as heavily influenced by inflation as the European currencies were at the time. But because of theoretical differences regarding the key to calculating the value of the Stelo, fierce internal dispute arose between the members of the League's board of directors, finally leading to the departure of its Cashier and financial expert, Mr. Laurence Mee. From the 1980s onwards, the activities of the League stagnated due to lack of new members, until finally in 1993 the Ligo was disbanded and their assets, including the entire remaining stock of coins, were bequeathed to the U.E.A. (Universal Esperanto Association, which had been founded on April 28, 1908), in Rotterdam. The dream of a common world currency leading to international concord had sadly enough not materialized.
Now let us travel backwards in time. Decades earlier, an initial breakthrough was achieved with the Spesmilo series: René de Saussure was the visionary who first proposed a stable, gold-based international monetary system which could easily be converted into many existing currencies of the era. In May of 1907, he published his project for an international Esperantist currency in a special edition of Scienca Revuo (Scientific Review). Therein, he also devised the Esperanto root word “speso”, and the requisite decimal terms, from the French “espéce” (coinage). He received many letters from peers and confreres who generally approved of the concept; among the most pleased was the originator of Esperanto himself, Dr. Zamenhof. He urged de Saussure to “not sway from it” and to do everything in his power “to obtain for it the sanction” of the 3rd World Esperanto Congress later that year in Cambridge, England. De Saussure's proposal turned out successfully, and the Spesmilo system was widely and favorably advertised and propagandized by the Universala Esperanto-Asocio. After his innovative idea caught the eye of this newly-formed alliance, they employed his system by issuing “postcards for their own use and that of UEA members which had a printed franking location with an indication of the needed postage, e.g., 4 spesdekoj.” Though de Saussure continued to make brilliant contributions to Esperanto, he was later expelled from its Academy for attempting to launch a newer language called “Nov-Esperanto”.
As examples of this coinage, 2 denominations were minted in 1912, in very small quantities, by the Swiss firm Holy Frères: a 1 Spesmilo (“milo” meaning “thousand”; 1,000 spesoj; I purchased mine from Aspen Coins), and a 2 Spesmiloj (2,000 spesoj). According to Mr. Harmon, these pieces “had nothing whatever to do with UEA. That was apparently purely a marketing initiative by the mint, which produced many ‘vanity’ coins and fantasies.” The aim was to sell them at the 1913 World Esperanto Congress in Bern. It is possible, although they were not intended for general use at that phase, that they seemingly saw some limited circulation. On these medallions, the dates 1887-1912 suggest not the 50th anniversary of the World Esperanto Congress (the 1st one was in 1905), but the 25 years that had passed since Dr. Zamenhof published his Unua Libro (First Book) in 1887 under the nom de guerre “Doktoro Esperanto”. Three additional patterns may have been produced for a minting that never occurred: spesdeko (10 spesoj), spescento (100 spesoj), spesdekmilo (10,000 spesoj).
The major result of de Saussure's article was that it prompted a German by the name of Dr. Herbert F. Höveler, living in Great Britain and an avid follower of the Esperanto movement, to establish the “Cxekbanko Esperantista” in September of 1908. He embraced the idea of an utopian currency, and under the alias “E. Cxefecx” (pronounced “Chefech”), he founded this international deposit bank. Its home office was in Merton Abbey, London; it also had a branch in Dresden and one in Moscow. The new arrangement, which was an immediate success, would utilize special “checks” payable by this bank; some of them bore the same unifying slogan which later appeared on the Universala Ligo's smallest coin: “Unu Mondo-Unu Lingvo-Unu Mono”. The brotherhood often dealt in small sums for miscellaneous transactions amongst themselves in foreign countries, could now debit their accounts or make payments to the accounts of their fellowmen. During that pre-war period, the catalogs of Esperanto bookstores and magazine subscriptions had their prices shown in Spesmiloj. Membership fees in their organizations were also paid in that currency; during World Esperanto Congresses, payments small and large (even in the restaurants) were paid by those checks. By 1914, this handy and inexpensive system had 730 clients in 43 countries. After the outbreak of World War I, their activities were severely limited. With the death of Höveler in 1918 there was no successor to continue the operation, so it effectively ceased to function. All creditors were repaid. Since the timing appears to be right, we can speculate that the Spesmilo coins may have actually been commissioned by the “Cxekbanko Esperantista”; or if not, then by some enterprising Swiss Esperantist(s).
Afterwards, Dreves Uitterdijk (an old but very active pioneer in the Esperanto movement) and J. Hengel tried to revive the once-promising Spesmilo monetary system. In 1927 they founded the “Universala Spesmila Banko” (Universal Spesmila Bank), and because the Netherlands was one of the few nations whose currency stayed stable during the period, its headquarters was in Laren. They issued several Spesmiloj notes (also backed by gold, with the same idealistic slogan mentioned above) but without favorable results; they disappeared in the early 1930s.
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Сообщение отредактировал Лика-33: 25.09.2015 - 08:14:19
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Отправлено 16.01.2007 - 08:35:52

См. картинки здесь: http://www.numisma.r...e/Esperanto.htm


Там же, но в разделе обмен есть прайс-лист, цены на эти жетоны действительно вполне доступные.
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Отправлено 16.01.2007 - 14:42:06

Уважаемые форумчане, есть ли у кого монеты, сканы стельо, и сколько они сейчас стоят на рынках? Что-то не нашел пока :ohmy:


Спасибо за дополнительную информацию. Сейчас добавлю ее к своему описанию. Спасибо Юрию В. за информационную поддержку моего сайта.

С уважением, numisma.ru
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